Mrs L. Raven-Hill

 

Mrs L Raven Hill
Marguerite Marie Antoinette Ingram-Cotton on her wedding day in India, 15th November 1921[1] 

Mrs Lucien Ennar Raven-Hill, 31, (1901-1971) or Marguerite, was the daughter-in-law of Punch cartoonist Leonard Raven-Hill and daughter-in-law by marriage of fellow table guest Marion Jean Lyon, by this time also a Mrs L. Raven-Hill, as the wife of Leonard. Born and bred in India, Marguerite had moved to London with her husband in 1925 / 1927. Most probably therefore she was invited through this family connection, and perhaps also to take her out a bit, noting she had lost her 8 year old daughter the previous October.

Seated Beside…

Perhaps the two youngest on the table might have sat together, the 31 year old Marguerite alongside the 31 year old Laura Wallis Mills the actress. On the other side of Marguerite perhaps might have been the other mother on the table, Ethel, Mrs Warner-Allen, 52 (of whom we know very little at the moment).

What’s On Her Mind?

Mourning customs were generally relaxing in the 1930s, compared to the pre-war and Victorian strictures, but it is probable that in recent months Marguerite had not been gallivanting about town a great deal. But now hopefully a lively conversation about the theatre etc. was now acceptable and perhaps she found out what Ethel was up to, married to a journalist and wine enthusiast – we don’t know much about Ethel as yet. We can hope that Marguerite enjoyed the evening.

Marguerite’s Story So Far

Marguerite Marie Antoinette Ingram-Cotton was born on 4th May 1901, in Bangalore, the daughter of Henriette Elizabeth Gaudart (1875 – 1918) and George John Ingram Cotton (1874 – 1953). [2] George Cotton, himself born in Amabawella, Nuwara Eliya, Ceylon, was a dental surgeon in the British Army in India, treating amongst his various Bangalore patients Winston Churchill, Rudyard Kipling and Baden Powell. Her mother Henriette, daughter of the Irish Elizabeth Donaghue and Frenchman Francois Gaudart, was born in Karikal, India (south of Pondicherry).

Mrs and Mrs L RavenHill (2)
Marguerite and Lucien on their wedding day 15th November 1921.[3] 
Marguerite married Lucien Ennar Raven-Hill, a Captain in the Indian Army, on 15th November 1921 in Bangalore, but they moved to London in 1925. They had four children: their daughter Yvonne Philomena, born in India in 1924 before they left, died in Headington, Oxford, aged 8, in October 1932, the year before the dinner.

 

 

Morvada1
The S.S. Morvada on which Marguerite sailed home from India

Morvada2

Shipping registers (of the Morvada) show that in October 1927 they lived at 18 Pinner Park Avenue, Headstone Lane, Harrow.[4] [5] [6 The Morvada on which they sailed in 1927 , launched in 1914, was broken up in October 1933. Lucien has various London addresses in 1924 and 1928. Did he come home in 1925 and the family later or did they travel twice with son John born in between? Either way, I’m not sure I’d have wanted to have spent too long on the high seas on the Morvada…….

What Marguerite Did Next

Thanks to family contributions to TheDinnerPuzzle we now know that Marguerite owned and ran a wool and haberdashery shop in Kew Gardens, near the station.[7] In 1936 she and Lucien were living at 13 Elsham Road, Kensington as well as their Harrow address (also residing there was one Mabel Agnes La Marechale Lawrence… great name, I wonder who she was).

Their youngest child June Patricia Anne, born in Hendon district in 1929, is now living in Toronto, Canada, as is her son Ian. Marguerite’s husband Lucien moved to Canada after she died, being resident there in 1972. Their two sons Lucien Ingram ‘Tod’ Raven-Hill (1922-2013) and John Howard Colello Raven-Hill (1927-2007) and their sister June Patricia Anne all have numerous descendants today.[8] Their eldest son, Lucien married Doris Aileen Barker, in Kew, Surrey in 1947. Lucien (also the eldest grandson of Leonard Raven-Hill) served in the Royal Marines during the Second World War, on coastal gun emplacements; HMS Kent on the Arctic Convoys; and then on Landing Craft (Guns) in the Sicily, Italy, and Normandy D-Day landings. Marguerite died on 7th March 1971 in Richmond-upon-Thames.[9]

The records seem to be undecided between Lucien or Lucian.  I have adopted Lucien as on a baptismal record.

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[1] and [3] From her wedding day picture, kindly supplied by her grandson Ian McCabe, sent to The Dinner Puzzle on Christmas Eve 2019.  Thank you Ian!

[2] Geneanet online family tree accessed 3.2.2018.

[4] Register of the Morvada, a twin screw passenger steamer, British and India Steam Navigation Company, sailing from Calcutta to London – Marguerite and her three children boarded in Madras.

[5] Image of the Morvada

[6] The Morvada

[7] With many thanks to Marguerite’s eldest grandson Paul Ingram Raven-Hill (also the great-grandson of Leonard Raven-Hill).

[7] Data from online Geneanet Tree, accessed 3.2.2018

[8] Obituary of Lucien Ingram Raven-Hill, son of Mrs Lucien (Ennar) Raven-Hill.

4 thoughts on “Mrs L. Raven-Hill

  1. Hello, I stumbled across this today. Marguerite was my grandmother and June Patricia Anne is my Mother still living in Toronto having just celebrated her 90th birthday.

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    1. Thank you! It is wonderful to hear from you and happy 90th birthday to your mother from everyone at the dinner puzzle! I hope I have my facts right and it was a challenge finding two people at the dinner who could call themselves Mrs L Raven-Hill. If you have additional stories or insights you could share with us we’d love to hear more. I wonder if there are any papers or memories of even being at the dinner! And of course to be able to fill in the blank space where Marguerite’s photograph would be a big plus for the puzzle. We now know that your grandmother and my grandfather were once at the same dinner at least. If easier, do email me on richardrhysobrien@btinternet.com

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  2. I am Paul Ingram Raven-Hill the eldest grandson of Lucien Ennar Raven-Hill and Marguerite Marie Antoinette Raven-Hill born on 24/10/1951 in Richmond, Surrey. My father was their eldest son, Lucien Ingram ‘Tod’ Raven-Hill (22/08/1922 – 27/01/2013) and my mother was Doris Aileen ‘Dot’ Raven-Hill (nee Barker) (09/04/1925 – 17/09/2018) who were married on 16/08/1947 in Kew, Surrey. After the war, my paternal grandmother owned and ran a wool and haberdashery shop in Kew Gardens, near the station. I remember both of my paternal grandparents very well. My late father served in the Royal Marines during the Second World War, on coastal gun emplacements; HMS Kent on the Arctic Convoys; and then on Landing Craft (Guns) in the Sicily, Italy, and Normandy D-Day landings. He was.demobbed in 1946. My late father was the eldest grandson of the celebrated Punch Cartoonist Leonard Raven-Hill, who died in 1942 in the Isle of Wight.

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    1. How very good to hear from you, and it would seem very appropriate the day after VE Day, given your father’s war service. And to hear of Marguerite Marie Antoinette’s Kew Gardens shop: I will add that into the void under What Marguerite Did Next! So your grandmother had dinner with my grandfather in 1933, but on different tables! and of course the same dinner as your great grandfather Leonard. Again on another table.
      Perhaps we could follow up this on an email conversation a bit more? Do email me if that works for you. richardrhysobrien@btinternet.com

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